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		<title>By: paulie</title>
		<link>http://hadleighroberts.com/2009/09/labours-bnp-platform-policy/#comment-393</link>
		<dc:creator>paulie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 15:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>they anger me so much &lt;a href=&quot;http://bnpbabes.co.uk/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://bnpbabes.co.uk/&lt;/a&gt; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they anger me so much <a href="http://bnpbabes.co.uk/" rel="nofollow">http://bnpbabes.co.uk/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jimbo</title>
		<link>http://hadleighroberts.com/2009/09/labours-bnp-platform-policy/#comment-392</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most voters support the BNP because they do not want mass immigration and multiculturism. As soon as labour starts lilstening and demonstrates it by actually doing something rather than headline grabbing half promises which are then dropeed later on,  then they will win back support from the BNP. The real problem is that the attitude of the left is undemocratic,  rather than respect the views of the electorate you seek to change them by re-education, some would call it brainwashing. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most voters support the BNP because they do not want mass immigration and multiculturism. As soon as labour starts lilstening and demonstrates it by actually doing something rather than headline grabbing half promises which are then dropeed later on,  then they will win back support from the BNP. The real problem is that the attitude of the left is undemocratic,  rather than respect the views of the electorate you seek to change them by re-education, some would call it brainwashing.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Musgrave</title>
		<link>http://hadleighroberts.com/2009/09/labours-bnp-platform-policy/#comment-391</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Musgrave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 19:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hadleigh Roberts seems to think he is taking part in &#8220;fascism against democracy&#8221; contest. 
 
Chambers Dictionary defines fascism as being composed for four or five characteristics, one of which is &#8220;militarism&#8221;. Labour plus Tories took the British military to Iraq (&#8220;for the oil&#8221; according to Alan Greenspan) and a million Muslims and Kurds died as a result. In contrast the BNP always opposed the war. Who are the fascists on that score? 
 
And then there is small question of the million or so Muslims and Kurds killed. Who are the racists? 
 
The BNP are going to have to kill an awful lot of Muslims etc before they become more racist than Labour or the Tories. 
 
Another element of fascism as per Chambers dictionary definition is &#8220;restrictions on personal freedom&#8221;. There have been dozens of articles in broadsheet newspapers in the last year cataloguing the attacks on civil liberties and human rights by Labour. 
 
And then there was the undemocratic (i.e. fascist decision) to implement a policy of mass immigration to the UK, a decision taken without consulting and against the wishes of the majority of Brits: a decision backed by Labour and Tories and opposed by the BNP. 
 
The list of Labour and Tory fascist characteristics is endless. It&#8217;s a moot point as to who the fascists are, isn&#8217;t it? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hadleigh Roberts seems to think he is taking part in &ldquo;fascism against democracy&rdquo; contest. </p>
<p>Chambers Dictionary defines fascism as being composed for four or five characteristics, one of which is &ldquo;militarism&rdquo;. Labour plus Tories took the British military to Iraq (&ldquo;for the oil&rdquo; according to Alan Greenspan) and a million Muslims and Kurds died as a result. In contrast the BNP always opposed the war. Who are the fascists on that score? </p>
<p>And then there is small question of the million or so Muslims and Kurds killed. Who are the racists? </p>
<p>The BNP are going to have to kill an awful lot of Muslims etc before they become more racist than Labour or the Tories. </p>
<p>Another element of fascism as per Chambers dictionary definition is &ldquo;restrictions on personal freedom&rdquo;. There have been dozens of articles in broadsheet newspapers in the last year cataloguing the attacks on civil liberties and human rights by Labour. </p>
<p>And then there was the undemocratic (i.e. fascist decision) to implement a policy of mass immigration to the UK, a decision taken without consulting and against the wishes of the majority of Brits: a decision backed by Labour and Tories and opposed by the BNP. </p>
<p>The list of Labour and Tory fascist characteristics is endless. It&rsquo;s a moot point as to who the fascists are, isn&rsquo;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: New Rules, New Tactics &#171; Simon Budden&#039;s Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>New Rules, New Tactics &#171; Simon Budden&#039;s Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] did not, following their ‘No Platform’ policy.* The blogosphere then furthered the debate, Hadleigh Roberts arguing in favour of scrapping the No Platform policy, a position that I agree [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] did not, following their ‘No Platform’ policy.* The blogosphere then furthered the debate, Hadleigh Roberts arguing in favour of scrapping the No Platform policy, a position that I agree [...]</p>
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		<title>By: BNP Question Time Edition &#8211; My Plea to Protesters &#171;</title>
		<link>http://hadleighroberts.com/2009/09/labours-bnp-platform-policy/#comment-389</link>
		<dc:creator>BNP Question Time Edition &#8211; My Plea to Protesters &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It is Labour&#8217;s duty to defeat the BNP, we must end the &#8216;No Platform&#8217; policy &#8211; Hadleigh Roberts [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hadleigh Roberts</title>
		<link>http://hadleighroberts.com/2009/09/labours-bnp-platform-policy/#comment-388</link>
		<dc:creator>Hadleigh Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 17:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Chanel for the best response and only sensible point I&#039;ve heard from the other side of the argument. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Chanel for the best response and only sensible point I&#039;ve heard from the other side of the argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Chanel Stevens</title>
		<link>http://hadleighroberts.com/2009/09/labours-bnp-platform-policy/#comment-387</link>
		<dc:creator>Chanel Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 14:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, I have to disagree. My experience of fighting fascism goes back to the mid seventies and the National Front and incidentally having a Great uncle who fought in the Spanish Civil War and a Father in the WW2,who admittedly took a more robust approach to dealing with this most pernicious and virulent of diseases! 
 
It is not a question of legitimising the BNP although that is a factor. When dealing with Fascism, one is not dealing with &quot;reason&quot; or &quot;reasonable&quot; people. Their appeal is specifically not to reason. It is a visceral appeal - to ignorance, suspicion and hate. Giving the BNP the oxygen of publicity only allows them to spread that message wider. Given that it is a message that will always find a resonance amongst the lumpen or deluded, it allows this egregious culture to fester and grow. Sensible debate in those cirumstances will convince the vast liberal majority who believe in democracy, free speech and fair play. For those who do not, and those are the very people who support the BNP, it only provides them with the ammunition to spread their bile further. The sad thing about PR is the BNP have only gained prominence recently not because their vote has increased, quite the converse as opposed to the 1970&#039;s, but due to the low threshold of PR it allows their representatives to now claim the vital platform and &quot;legitimacy&quot; of being a servant of the people. That is why I do not believe in PR, nor in sharing a platform with those who peddle evil. yours fraternally, Chanel Stevens </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, I have to disagree. My experience of fighting fascism goes back to the mid seventies and the National Front and incidentally having a Great uncle who fought in the Spanish Civil War and a Father in the WW2,who admittedly took a more robust approach to dealing with this most pernicious and virulent of diseases! </p>
<p>It is not a question of legitimising the BNP although that is a factor. When dealing with Fascism, one is not dealing with &quot;reason&quot; or &quot;reasonable&quot; people. Their appeal is specifically not to reason. It is a visceral appeal &#8211; to ignorance, suspicion and hate. Giving the BNP the oxygen of publicity only allows them to spread that message wider. Given that it is a message that will always find a resonance amongst the lumpen or deluded, it allows this egregious culture to fester and grow. Sensible debate in those cirumstances will convince the vast liberal majority who believe in democracy, free speech and fair play. For those who do not, and those are the very people who support the BNP, it only provides them with the ammunition to spread their bile further. The sad thing about PR is the BNP have only gained prominence recently not because their vote has increased, quite the converse as opposed to the 1970&#039;s, but due to the low threshold of PR it allows their representatives to now claim the vital platform and &quot;legitimacy&quot; of being a servant of the people. That is why I do not believe in PR, nor in sharing a platform with those who peddle evil. yours fraternally, Chanel Stevens</p>
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		<title>By: Update On &#8216;No Platform&#8217; For The BNP &#171;</title>
		<link>http://hadleighroberts.com/2009/09/labours-bnp-platform-policy/#comment-386</link>
		<dc:creator>Update On &#8216;No Platform&#8217; For The BNP &#171;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] arguments again, I’ll just direct you to my previous blog on the issue and these articles by Hadleigh Roberts and Adam Connell and hopefully doubters will see why this is the right [...]</description>
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		<title>By: alex</title>
		<link>http://hadleighroberts.com/2009/09/labours-bnp-platform-policy/#comment-385</link>
		<dc:creator>alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:45:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>agh this always drives me mad, I think your quote &quot;If we do not trust voters enough to make their own choices, then we have a far greater problem with democracy than we do with the BNP.&quot; sums it up excellently. The public should be allowed to listen to ALL sides of the argument, not just labour/conservative, before they can make an INFORMED decision.  A no platform policy makes it look like labour are threatened by the BNP, whereas in reality, I think giving them a chance to air their racist views will allow them to dig their own grave and save everyone else the trouble. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>agh this always drives me mad, I think your quote &quot;If we do not trust voters enough to make their own choices, then we have a far greater problem with democracy than we do with the BNP.&quot; sums it up excellently. The public should be allowed to listen to ALL sides of the argument, not just labour/conservative, before they can make an INFORMED decision.  A no platform policy makes it look like labour are threatened by the BNP, whereas in reality, I think giving them a chance to air their racist views will allow them to dig their own grave and save everyone else the trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: Hadleigh Roberts</title>
		<link>http://hadleighroberts.com/2009/09/labours-bnp-platform-policy/#comment-384</link>
		<dc:creator>Hadleigh Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 15:34:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t worry about being long winded, your points and concerns are very valid. 
 
As for the BNP becoming a &quot;a real alternative&quot;, it seems that they have used the notoriety of being treated as a special case to their adavntage and have already painted themselves as the ultimate protest vote aginst LibLabCon hegemony. 
 
Blackburn, as you rightly noted, have done very well against the BNP by dealing with the problem in a clear and direct manner. 
 
What I really don&#039;t want to happen is to see them in 10 years winning on average 10% of the vote as the Front National do in France, thinking collectively &quot;if only we&#039;d gone at the all guns blazing to begin with.&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#039;t worry about being long winded, your points and concerns are very valid. </p>
<p>As for the BNP becoming a &quot;a real alternative&quot;, it seems that they have used the notoriety of being treated as a special case to their adavntage and have already painted themselves as the ultimate protest vote aginst LibLabCon hegemony. </p>
<p>Blackburn, as you rightly noted, have done very well against the BNP by dealing with the problem in a clear and direct manner. </p>
<p>What I really don&#039;t want to happen is to see them in 10 years winning on average 10% of the vote as the Front National do in France, thinking collectively &quot;if only we&#039;d gone at the all guns blazing to begin with.&quot;</p>
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